VH: We have several of your records on our Sahaja radio. They are: Adi Shakti Poojan 1 & 2, Prerna, Roohani Roshani, Bandagi, Jagriti, Sahaj Sadhana, Phuhaar, Santulan, Santushti, Kahat Kabir, Kabir Bhajnamrit, Kabir Sur Sangam, Paigambari, Surkamal... Which of them is the closest to you?
„Roohani Roshani“. Because Shri Mataji personally supervised its making. Right from the compositions, poetry, the prerecording Puja advice. At the recording time She put Her attention to it, and when it was recorded, She checked for its quality & amde me rerecord certain portions where she felt it needed correction. It also marked the maiden Album under my name „Roshan“(The Enlightened one) a khitaab (Name) She gave to me during its making. There were many things she said at that time, about this album being one of my best & would be the most popular of all. It really is very special and closest to me.
VH: Your last album „Jai Jagdambe Maa“ has come out with the official world mark TIME MUSIC. How did you manage to press Sahaja yoga to the world trade?
I had just had a meeting with Shri Mataji on 10th Dec 2002. I went back home and recorded a new album. I met all the leading music companies of India and proposed this latest Bhajan album for a worldwide release. 'Times Music' reviewed my Bhajans and selected them for a worldwide release. Thus was born the music album - "Jai Jagdambe Maa." The trick was - not to talk about mother or Sahaj Yoga to them. Just let them listen to the music, my voice and then decide. They asked me one question: "What inspired you to creat something so good and original like this?" I answered: „ It is the story of the Devas, who sought the protection of the Devi in the Devlok. These Devas were being routed by the Asuras or the Rakshasa, who had spread hell in the trilok. Finally the Devi went on a rampage to kill these demons. And now the devas have been reborn as Sahaj Yogis and Shri Mataji as the Devi Herself. And I am merely singing the praise of Shri Mataji for having saved us from our own Asuras that had come back to attack us in the subtle. The bhajans are actually the rejoicing of this victory that Shri Mataji has managed in this mortal world by giving the seekers Sahaj yoga, the ulitmate tool to all problems of life."
TIMES MUSIC IMMEDIATELY WANTED TO WRITE ABOUT SHRI MATAJI AND RELAESED HER ALBUM WITH A BEAUTIFUL PICTURE OF HERS AND HER LIFE NARRATION ON THE INNER COVER. IT WAS INDEED VERY GRACOIUS OF THEM. IT WAS RELEASED WORLDWIDE BYTHEM IN MARCH 2003.
It includes some popular Bhajans from my previous musical works - "Roohani Roshani & Prerna". In addition to these, I wrote and composed three new Bhajans. The CD' has a total of 8 Bhajans, recorded professionally to meet with the international commercial norms. The recording was completed Jan. 2003.
VH: The video CD „Maa Ka Aashirwad“ (Mother´s Blessings) is also very nice. Could you write us how was it created, where did you record it and what is the contents?
A separate Video production of the Bhajans of „Jai Jagdambe Maa“ was produced in March 2003. It was titled "Maa Ka Aashirwad"(Mother's Blessings) It comprises of an opening welcome song and has several photographic images of Shri Mataji, that best describe the lyrics of each Bhajan. I hired a professional film director, a dance director and his team of dancers & choreographers. We filmed the songs in Pune and Satara in four different temples. Shri Mataji had soon thereafter taken to silence, but had blessed the project with all her love and good wishes. She gave many bandhans. It was a tribute paid to Her and was released during Her 80th Birthday Puja.
VH: Finally one more question – how does still Sahaja yoga fill you after so many years, what does Shri Mataji mean for you and what does music composing give you?
In order to do more justice to this question, I would first like to summarise my musical journey as a learning of Sahaj Yoga from the Teacher of all teachers, the Goddess Herself. And what a blessing...... It is a moment of great pride and fulfilment for me, ever since I started writing, composing and singing Bhajans in dedication to our Divine Mother in 1986.You will recollect the Bhajan tapes of Adi Shakti Poojan Vol-I & II, Roohani Roshni, Prerna, Jagriti, Sahaj Sadhana, Phuhaar, Paigambari, Santulan, Santushti, Kabir Sur Sangam, Kabir Bhajanamrit, Kahat Kabir & Soorkamal - all of which have been popular among Sahaja yogis, the world over. I had the privilege and blessings of our 'Mother' to write about all aspects of Sahaj Bhakti, as it grew within me. There was never an opportunity lost in sharing with Her my poems, which She corrected and even moulded, so as to impart a more deeper meaning to it. She filled these with all HER vibrations.Some of the Bhajans' lyrics, are actually her own words, as dictated to me.Sometime in Feb 1989, She had called me, to let me know, that my Bhajans would reach all corners of the world, and that seekers would be able to meditate on them. Later She even authorised my poems and compositions, that were subsequently recorded and presented to all of you in the form of the above-mentioned releases. All these Bhajan tapes, , having been there since last 22 years. I managed to recover not only my production costs, but many times over. The collections were presented to Her as Royalties.
In Her magnanimity, She allowed me to retain sufficient funds, so as to continue making more Bhajan recordings. That is how so many productions happened.Once there was a gap of about two years, when I had not made a new Bhajan Tape.She ordered me not to discontinue making them. There were many others who had also started doing the same, and there was a big competition. I was being stopped by many from continuing, but then She told me, that She was trying to overcome this evil of jealousy among human beings, and that till such time it happened, I must not lose hope and learn the art of forgivness.It was the 10th of December,2002, when I had a chance meeting with Her, that She shared with me a very thought-provoking fact. She said: "One day even I will have to leave this mortal being, and it is You people - the Sahaja Yogis, who will have to keep this lamp of love glowing in everyone's hearts. You will have to take the responsibility to lead all seekers of truth to their ultimate fulfilment through your own Self-Awakening."
Her words left a great impact on me. I was spellbound, and a great sense of urgency engulfed me. Almost instantly I shared with her my dream- 'to bring all the Poetry that She had filled me with; all the music She had nurtured in me, and all the sweetness She had endowed to my Vishuddhi, to reach out to the whole world- whether it be shared with all my Sahaj brothers and sisters, or with those who could receive the vibrations of Her love through my musical works and lead them to their Self Realisation. This would also include those seekers who were waiting to become yogis. I asked her, that this time She did something so unique, that Her vibrations from these Bhajans would provide instant meditation to all. I prayed to Mother for her blessings, and she granted it. She told me that my work was already done. She then reminded me of Her golden words, when in 1989 she had predicted this would happen. She said: "Now, the time has come, and nothing can stop it from happening. So go ahead, you have my "Anant Aashirwad"(eternal blessings) .
That is when I took a very bold initiative and went on to sign the historical 10-year contract with TIMES MUSIC. I also went on to produce my very first Bhajan video CD - „MAA KA AASHIRWAD“ This project cost me over Rs 10,00,000.00. Her blessings were such that I recovered every penny of it. And all this despite stiff opposition from some quarters. I really cannot blame anyone for it, because they ad no clue about my long association with Mother on this subject.
I have never spoken so much in detail and so candidly, as I have done in this interview.
Now coming to the essence of your main question- Sahaja yoga is that aspect of Shri Mataji that I am continuously learning. Its fulfillment is endless. I feel completely bathed in it & wish to keep having this bath till my last breath. What concerns me most is that I need to share this experience with as many people as can be possible. And that is the challenge I am presently dealing with. I still feel I have a lot to do, and so am hopeful to keep prodding on.
What Shri Mataji means to me? Well it must have become quite apparent to you by now. We are indeed very fortunate to have SHRI MATAJI with us in our lifetimes.Imagine, we are living in times when the Goddess Herself has decended on Earth to save mankind from destruction.
Music Composing fills my heart with gratitude to Mother. Here is an expression of gratitude that I would like to share with you: Very recently I wrote a song in english. It is my promise to our Mother, written on behalf of all the Sahaj Yogis ( Jewels) of this world. I am waiting to record this song in North America, as I know it is the song that would please the Adi Shakti very much. It goes like this - "We’re in the Heart of the World with your blessings......“ - it is in Google It is one of the ways I wanted to say:
THANK YOU MOTHER FOR GIVING US THIS BEAUTIFUL WORLD OF SAHAJ YOGA. WE PROMISE TO KEEP THE LIGHT OF YOUR LOVE GLOWING FOREVER.
VH: Where can our listeners buy your CDs and what is the price?
That is a good question, and I am myself trying to find some answers for it. Firstly, all my music was being made available by me only. In the early days ( 20 years back) my music was the first to come out. Mother wanted me to sell my own tapes. So these wouls be copied by my Sahaj Brothers form UK & Germany and given to me in ganapatiphule, where i set up my musici stall. This cotinued for about 10 years, till more and more musicains were born and morew tapes flooded the Sahaj music market. Mother then started the NITL in Pune, who then started to sell my music.
Lately NITL has been busy with Mother’s archives and due to too many musicians and too much work involeved in making all the music available to all the yogis, I found my works getting drowned in this vast ocean of Sahaj Love. So finally I decided to work my own music myself once again. I have reprepared all the music masters and have brought them with me for making them available to all of the Norht Americans first, as i am currently based out of Victoria BC. Currently my tapes are avbailable for sale with Mr Ahuja of the toronto Centre and Mr Mahadev form the Vancouver Centre. Maybe Calgary Centre still have a few left with Mr. Surjit and Binu. Details can be had from Dr Andrei Harabor. Else I too have some stock lying with me.
The CD’s are priced at $10.00 each and the DVD at $ 15.00 each. In case you need some stock for sales, you can order directly with me on email, and i shall have it shipped directly to you. Only the title Jai jagdambe Maa should be freely available in all stores worldwide (wherever Times Music has a contract to sell). I am the only other copyright holder entitled to sell my own work.
You will remember about my left Vishuddhi, when She first met me. Right? Well this was what She did- She was sitting with about 40 Yogis meditating in front of Her, while i had just entered the big drawinbg room of Mrs Pardal form the opposite door, where I could see Shri Mataji directly face to ace. Her evey were closed, and there was complete silence. Then all of a sudden the candle lit on the opposite wall flickered very hard and then I heard a swishh kind of a sound coming from the left of the room. The moment i turen towards it, I saw a big ball of fire entering through the wall of the room, and it went circling around the room so very fat, that in a jiffy, and probably with a wink of the eye, it just made through the other side of the wall and disappeared. Its light was still lingering in the room, as I gazed towards this miraculous happening. That ver moment my eye met with mother’s eye, as She suddenly opened Her eyes and looked directly into my eyes. She then smiled at me and then shut Her eyes. None of the 40 yogis who sat in the room meditating, saw this miracle, as they sat unmoved, as if nothing had happened.I was simply shocked to learn that this experience was just mine, and mother had acknowledged it to me. I became very curious, but quitely went and sat amongst the other yogis.
Soon after, when Mother sat relaxed on Her chair, and yogis had gooten up and were moving around, I went and asked few of them, if they saw anything. No one acknowledged. Now, I could not contain myself, and i went straight to Shri Mataji. Before I could even utter a word to Her, She whisperingly told me by cupping her fingers around my ear, not tot panick, as it was „VishnuMaya“,then she emphasised, it was my Vishnu Maya, that I saw, having just finished with my clearance, and that i was now free from guilt. She told me that I could now freely express myself, and I need not fear anyone. She also said that i was very special and that I must respect myself. She told me that there was a lot of potential in me which could be tapped, and that She was working on it.
I quickly ran to another room, as if unable to contain my joy. I returned after a few moments, and sat at Mother’s feet again. I had brought a paper and a pen, and I was already writing a poem and was reading it aloud to Shri Mataji. Mother immediately closed Her eyes and began talking in prose. I quickly jotted down every word She spoke. It was actually filling up the words to my poem, and at the end of it, a beautiful song was born. She then asked me to sing it, which I did. She commented, saying „ it is a true happening in Sahaj yoga and that is how the transformation happens. You must sing it to all the new people..“
Later, we travelled in the plane from Jaipur to Mumbai.
In the plane, She started to talk with me about Sahaj yoga, and how it works in us. I had many questions which She answered. She would suddenly fall asleep while talking, and I would then start writing poems. She would wake up in the middle and enquire how much I had written. She would then go through the poem with me, and correct it.The miracle that would happen was, that when I would narrate the poems back to Her, I would actually sing them, as if the music was composed already. I cannot remember, how and when it got composed. She liked the compositions, and told me that the Ragas I selected were most appropriate to the subject matter of each poetry. Amazing!! I had not a clue about it till she actually told me.She said " You must first share it will all the yogis. They will simply love it, and then you take it to all the seekers of Truth."Only music will do the final trick".
When we reached Mumbai, Mother went to Pune in her car, while I followed in a train. I wrote a poem in the train. When I reached Shri Mataji's flat in Pune, she asked me "So did you write anything?". "Yes Mother" I said, and then she asked me to sing it to Her.
My God, there are so many more instances that speak about how I became a Sahaj Musician. All I can say that I am merely the flute through which the Adi Shaki blew her breath, and as She moved her fingers on my chakras. The music that was born was simply divine.There is actually poem where I have actually described how this flute works and simply plays Her tune of love. It is one more memorable moment when I wrote this poem and met mother to take Her approval. The most beautiful moments of my life were spent with Her at that moment.
It is a Moment I will never forget: Now let me share with you.... Moments that granted me the magic of music from the Saraswati herslf. It was February of 1997, and we were doing puja to Shri Mataji at Mumbai. I remeber it was Shivratri puja. It went on till the wee hours of the morning.Shri Mataji finally left the Puja venue about 2 am. I was staying at Juhu with a Yogi, and we reached home around 2.30 am. I do not know what came over me, and I just started writing. I had barely finished composing the new poem that I felt this tremendous urge to go and meet Shri Mataji. It was around 3.30am. The yogi with whom I stayed, started to tell me about the protocol with Mother, and that the leaders will be very angry, if we went and disturbed Mother at that hour. I remember, my Yogi brother telling me that I should not go at that hour, as Mother had just finished a Puja, and must be resting. But I was very adament. I told him- "if we have to meet Mothet, then nothing can stop us.If you do not want to go, then I will go alone." And so I got up to go, he was so much taken by my determination, and so he said " well then we shall face it together- whatever happens".
We got into an autorickshaw and got off right in front of Mother's Juhu retreat (owend by Mr Rahul Bajaj- the great Industrialist of India). As we got off, what we saw was to our utmost amazement. The front door to the bungalow was wide open, and as we walked towards the beach house, I could see Shri Mataji from a distance. She was sitting at the head of a round dining table with all the world leaders sitting beside her, along with Yogi Mahajan. I could hear from the distance Mother exclaimimg " Come.. Come.., I had been waiting for you. I knew you would have written something. So, is it ready now? Would you like to sing it to all of us? I had just finished telling all these people about the amazing gift you have and here you are. How did you know we were discussing you?" And she laughed. Then She asked me to sit beside Her, and when She finished washing Her hands ( She had just finished having Her dinner),She asked me to drink the contents of Her finger bowl. I looked as if I was in some sort of a Heaven and God was telling me to drink nector. I picked up the bowl and drank it.
I remember all the leaders whispering " please leave some for us. All this while we have been waiting for this moment, and you just land up and start drinking it all by your self" They said it very jokingly, but Mother had heard them, and said, " See, He is writing this wonderful poetry, which has to go to the whole world, so he needs it more than you all' and She started laughing.She then told me to sing my new poem and composition. As I sang it, Shri mataji closed Her eyes, and I felt some sort of a great opening in my Vishuddhi. It is hard to describe, what I was going through, but my entire being was just lifted into ecstasy. Shri Mataji asked everyone there to check the cool vibrations and then commented. " I am going to now take him with me all over the world, you see. I will have him sing his songs to all the yogis and the seekers of truth." She asked the Foreign leaders to invite me to the Foreign Pujas and have me sing at all the functions. She told them that from now onwad She was going to start a Music group, that will travel with Her, as She would travel the whole world giving realisation to all the sekers. She asked me to get my passport ready and get ready to leave for abroad that summer itself.This declaration of mother, was indeed the birth of Nirmal Sangeet Sarita. The song I had composed that day was " Teri Sason ki Jab Ek Ladi...." It was later recorded in my musical release "Roohani Roshani"
There were innumerable such instances when I would be with Mother and She would call upon me to sing my new compositions. It had become like the 'order of the day' for me.I had, by now, become quite addicted to writing new poems and the music compositions would just flow spontaneously. Mother then commented that it was my Swadisthan chakra that had opened and that pure knowledge was flowing through me.
She said "So now you know, that there is some power that is working in you, Actually you are not the doer, it is that power that is awakened in you, that is doing all this through you. You are merely an instrument, surrendered to this power. And I have authorised it to happen, so you do not worry about making mistakes, as none will happen. This power is absolutely pure, and it is flowing for the benovalence of mankind at large. So never stop its flow. Just keep writing, and now you must records it all and make it available for all the Sahaj Yogis to buy. It will be a collection worth having for anyone, because it has the vibrations. It is eternal music of love. She would bless me again and again, and whenever there would be yogis around, She would specially call me and ask me " can you please sing that particular song you made the other day"...
The best compliment Shri Mataji ever paid to me was, when She named me "Roshan“- the enlightened one. She once told me that I had the complete knowledge of Sahaj Yoga, and that she was very happy that I would be able to now write, compose and sing Her message to the whole world.I am still trying to understand what She really meant by that. I do know for sure,that if God is to be seen on earth today, IT IS PARAM PUJYANIYA HER HOLINESS SHRI MATAJI NIRMALA DEVI.
VH: You were a member of the music group Nirmal Sangeet Sarita. You played at a lot of pujas before our Mother. Now Nirmal Sangeet Sarita often perform at Guru pujas in Cabella. How do you remember these concerts? Could you share a story from the concert?
Before Nirmal Sangeet Sarita was put together, I had three RECORDED ALBUMS READY. MOTHER NAMED THE FIRST TWO AS "ADI SHAKTI POOJAN VOLUME 1 AND 2." THE THIRD ONE WAS „PRERNA“ I WAS PREPARING TO RECORD MY 4 ALBUM „ROOHANI ROSHANI" WHEN......
Mother had asked Baba Mama to get in touch with me and listen to my compositions. Baba Mama approached me and told me that Mother had spoken to her and that She said that my songs had a lot of vibrations, so I told Her that "Yes, Mother, he is still untrained and therefore his voice quivers." I tried to explain to Baba Mama that Mother was referring to the flow of Chaitanya, and was not complaining about my voice vibrating. We both had a big argument, and then he said to me " Listen, She has asked me to become the Master of Ceremonies and to gather musicians to play for you, so that you can perform your songs to the whole world. So now, I am going to be your boss, and I will guide you when and how to sing.Thus began the first journey of the Nirmal Sangeet Sarita in 1987-88.
As I see more questions below, I will try to provide you with more direct answers. I guess the details you can probaly read in my forthcoming Book. Yes, I am planning to write a book titled “Jewels of Joy“, where the Jewel are two types: 1)The priceless moments I spent with Shri Mataji & 2)Those that She created out of Her love - The Sahaj Yogis.
Dear all We are pleased to inform you that we have added to the broadcast two new albums. Both of them are gifts from last pujas. The first one is "Songs of Devotion" from Romanian collectivity. There you will find bhajans from the band Sahaj Group and Sangeet Lahari. The second album is "Love From the Heart" - a collection of music from United Kingdom, which was a gift of just ended Navaratri puja.
Sahaj Group Sahasrara Mantras
Sahaj Group Allah Tero Naam
Sahaj Group Kai Bal Gayee
Sahaj Group Ma Tere Sahaj Group Pyar Bhare Sahaj Group Bhavani Dayani Sahaj Group Hasat Ali Nirmal Ai Sangeet Lahari Hai Mata Mahan Apni Sangeet Lahari Tanu Ishk Da Sangeet Lahari Nato Chalka Na Gate
Wavewalkers - Let Colour Is
Vimala - Drive
Vibration - The Passing Storm
The Cast - The Day Down
Celli Quartet - Pachelbel Canon Ciaram McLaughlin - Still Life Supreme The Cast - Piper And The Maker Cell Quartet - Gardel Por Une cabeza Deborah Eckman - The Time Is Now Casabella - Casabella Last Biscuit - Ensemble Moses Fari Bradley - Shri Durga
We have also added new song of Russian sahaja yogi Vladimir Ugodin - it is called "Mother come".
On the You Tube website you can also find new home video of Jeremy Clancy - "I feel so sorry for the rich man". The video- clip you can see here.
We would like to thank to all listeners for increasing interest for your radio and keep listening !!!!